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Sudden Change In Trend

Discussion in 'Traders Coffee Shop' started by siva934127, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. siva934127

    siva934127 Member

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    Hi Shabbir,

    I observed some times when the support or resistance breaks immediately 1 to 2 % comes down or up.

    1. Any body try to manipulate the people or Many traders fears/excited that time to jump in the trend.

    I observed some time a stock goes up continuously that time I want to buy but can not catch the desirable

    price again tried for bit higher price but failed ....

    later purchased at higher price after that immediately total picture takes U turn means stock gone negative ....

    1. Any body can know our orders like insider trading ?

    2. Any body like mutual fund persons and big traders manipulate us that time?

    Please let me know the reason if you have information.

    Thanks,
    Siva.
     
  2. shabbir

    shabbir Administrator Staff Member

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    Siva,

    Yes this is called fakey or false positive. When you have a strong support that is being tested then there are panic creator which just tries to breach level which is strong support (or resistance) and the panic can help them make huge chunk of money but if the panic does not creep in, they are just making the smaller profits.

    So let us look at axis bank charts for 3 months. Long term chart would tell 1100 is a good support.

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    Now on Feb 14th there is a breach of the support of 1100. So let us look at the chart of Feb 14 in Google finance.

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    See the first big candle that takes the stock under 1100 with huge volume means that it was completely a good sign that shorting was being played on this stock. Second breach of 1100 is again with huge volumes and so idea was to create a panic and they managed to get even below 1090 which would have triggered lot of margin calls and suck the money out of automated stops and then in the end of the day it was all covered up because the panic did not make too much fall in the stock.

    I hope this explains what you see and the avoid this is to use stops. The fakey is not very easy to detect but if you happen to short the stock in spike in Axis bank but did not see the support being maintained, you should be getting out of it at your stop which should have been 1110 at max.
     

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  3. siva934127

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    Hi Shabbir,

    Good one and great explanation.

    Thanks,
    Siva.
     
  4. shabbir

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